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Planets Gone Wild – Out of Bounds

Out of Bounds Celebrities, Politicians, and More

The longitude of a planet in Astrology is used to the degree of the planet in the Astrological chart. The planet’s latitude is equally important. When a planet advances beyond the greatest latitude declination of north or south of 23°27′, it is thought Out of Bounds. The Sun, Saturn, and Neptune never reach Out of Bounds

Individuals with an Out of Bounds planet overlook or understand boundaries.  They accept no limits and will push buttons.  Stepping outside norms is a behavior found in innovators and criminals.  An Out of Bounds planet can also be negatively expressed as it may show irregular or erratic behavior that may be deemed as unacceptable society norms.  It may appear as if they try to get away with more.  This can result in indefinite originality and triumph.  Yet, it can also result in infamy.

Albert Einstein had an Out of Bounds Moon which provided a unique paradigm of time and space through his assignment on the theory of relativity.  Whereas, R. Kelly’s Moon in the same sign in Sagittarius operates differently than Einstein.  The entire condition of the Moon needs consideration as well as placement. 

Individuals who have Out of Bounds planets leave their effects on the world.  Occasionally you will see both favorable and dysfunctional aspects in the lives of those with Out of Bounds planets. 

Planets in the signs of Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Sagittarius, Capricorn, and Aquarius occasionally reach Out of Bounds.  Planets in Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Pisces, Aries, and Taurus never reach Out of Bonds positioning.

If one doesn’t have an Out of Bounds planet natally, one may acquire it by progression.  By progression, it may last from a few years to decades.  Sometimes a Solar Return chart may have this position too.  So forecasting these are just as vital.

I noticed during transiting Mars was Out of Bounds, I dealt with a person with misplaced anger.  Upon inspecting her date of birth, I noticed that she was born with an Out of Bounds Mars.

Below is a list of Out of Bounds planets.  We’ll explore in the next week the aspects declinations make. 

Out of bounds planets

Out of Bounds Moon: Emotions are deeply felt.  Usually, there is a difficult family background with trauma.  An emotional disconnect from the mother is typical.  Opposite: mood swings. 

Celebrity: Mariah Carey, Cher, Curt Cobain, Farah Fawcett, Lisa “Left Eyes” Lopes (TLC), Alyssa Milano, Selena Quintanilla,  Kylie Minogue, Brooke Shields, Oprah Winfrey, Amy Winehouse

Other: Al Gore

Notorious: John Wilkes Booth, Erik Menendez, R Kelly, Vladimir Putin, Harvey Weinstein

Out of Bounds Mercury: The mind may over-think matters.  There may be a need to over speak or under speak.  Opposite: Hearing voices and speech issues. 

Celebrity:  Aaliyah, Uta Hagen, Tom Hanks, Bette Midler, Kylie Minogue, Dolly Parton, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Denzel Washington, Howard Stern.

Other:  John Kerry, Donald Trump

Notorious:  R Kelly, Dr. Jack Kevorkian, Erik Menendez, Dennis Nilsen, Peter Sutcliffe

Out of Bounds Venus:  There’s either a ton or a lack of love.  The individual will exude charm and grace.  Artistic talents are strong.  Opposite: sexuality outside acceptable bounds.

Celebrity: Cher, Clint Eastwood, Larry King, Susan Sarandon, Robert Schumann, Britney Spears, Tina Turner, Rudolph Valentino, Gene Wilder, 

Notorious: Ian Brady, Ronald Kray, Peter Sutcliffe, William Heirens, James Eagan Holmes

Out of Bounds Mars: Extreme ambition, energy, desire, passion, enthusiasm, and sexual libido.  Opposite: excessive aggressive bullying.

Celebrity: Jackie Chan, Bobbi Kristina Brown, Aretha Franklin, Janice Joplin, Larry King, Lindsay Lohan, Wolfgang Mozart, Rhianna, Steven Spielberg, Barbara Streisand, Rudolph Valentino, Jean Claude Van Damme, Robin Williams

Other Figure:  Prince Charles, John Kerry, Tiger Woods

Notorious: Andrew Cunanan, Mayor Rob Ford, Richard Ludwig Strack, Patrick Kearney, William Heirens, Vladimir Putin

Out of Bounds Jupiter: Sporting ability and remarkable public recognition that lives past death.

Celebrity: Nat King Cole, Marshall Bruce Mathers III (Eminem), and Max Shulman.

Notorious: Still trying to search.  It’s uncommon; however, this depends too on how Jupiter is aspected in the chart. 

Out of Bounds Uranus: Fascinated with discovery, inventing, and revolutionizing.  Dangerous experiments intrigue. 

Celebrity: Jay Leno, Olivia Newton-John, Cybill Shepherd, Bruce Springsteen, Meryl Streep, Josephine Baker, John Belushi, Rhianna

Other Figure:  Prince Charles

Notorious: Edward Gein, James Eagan Holmes 

Out of Bounds Pluto: Achievement of power.  Fascination with the deeper meaning of life.  Opposite: Manipulate by overusing power.

Celebrity: Cher, Farah Fawcett, Aretha Franklin, Elton John, Janice Joplin, Jay Leno, Paul McCartney, Cybill Shepherd, Sylvester Stallone, Meryl Streep, Barbara Streisand, John Belushi, Jessica Savitch, Arnold Schwarzenegger

Other Figure:  George W Bush, Al Gore, Mitt Romney

Infamous: John Wayne Gacy, Harvey Weinstein

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Everyone has a 2nd and 3rd Astrology Chart

An Astrology Chart has many variations. The modern Western Chart is the most commonly used Astrology for obtaining information on a native’s character and possibility. Various forecasting methods show periods for possibilities in all dimensions of life including love and career prospects. Also, there are techniques used for analyzing relationship compatibility, relocation analysis, and event planning.


The Western Chart is enough to get more details than one can imagine.  It takes years to master several concepts.  The knowledge is never-ending as there are always new concepts explored.

The next important chart is the Uranian Chart.  This system was developed in Germany. It uses aspects that are in the Western Chart and other overlooked aspects.  This system uses Midpoints and 8 hypothetical planets. 

Astrology Chart- Uranian

Astrology Chart Whitney Houston Uranian
Chart B Whitney Houston-Uranian Chart

The halfway point between 2 planets is called a midpoint.  For example, the Venus/Mars midpoint is a popular relationship midpoint. 


Planetary trees show aspects between midpoints and planets.

8 hypothetical planets are factored in interpretations.  These are the Trans Neptunian Planets (TNP’s) which are beyond Pluto. 


Uranian Astrology uses formulas to get forecasting answers.  For example, Sun + Moon-Venus is considered a marriage formula.  When the formula becomes active, so does the opportunity for marriage.  Simply, these equations generate timing answers.  There are hundreds of formulas.  This type of chart is an additional forecasting and relationship compatibility source. 

A 90-degree dial navigates the chart.  It is like a plate one spins around to analyze midpoints and planets in calculating time.  Software can do this too.  Yet, a seasoned professional can work faster than a computer manually spinning the dial around

Astrology Chart – Hellenistic

Astrology Chart Whitney Houston Hellenistic
Chart C Whitney Houston- Hellenistic Chart

Finally, the Hellenistic Chart is what I classify as a separate system.  This was used by ancient astrologers in 2 BCE and predates modern astrology.  It uses 5 planets and 2 luminaries.  I was fascinated by this form of Astrology because they separate day charts from night charts.  Each chart has specific theories for what makes a chart work.


In Hellenistic Astrology, a planet can shift into different houses as the whole sign system is used.  This will not happen to all charts.  Subtle differences enrich the analysis.


The 2 Hellenistic forecasting tools shown in the last few weeks were Annual Profections and Zodiacal Releasing.  I am impressed by these tools.  I still want to see the Western chart and the various forecasting tools utilized, I believe these tools serve as polish materials.

Western and Uranian Astrology can give plenty of details to enrich a reading.  Yet, I think some Hellenistic concepts will add nuances that can serve as putting a magnifying glass over a chart.

The charts to the side are Whitney Houston.  Chart A is the traditional Western Chart. Chart B is her Uranian Chart; Chart c is her Hellenistic Chart. 

Repeated themes that come up in all 3 charts are significant.  Overlooked details sometimes are seen through a different lens adding more dimensions.

There are other charts used for other areas that zoom in specifics such as past life, fertility, and more.  I’ll cover those at a later time. 

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Hellenistic Astrology Part 3: Not All Is Grim

Hellenistic Astrology

Hellenistic Astrology predates Medieval Astrology from 2 BCE. Though there are some great uses for their theories in modern Astrology, there are numerous grim interpretations for the 12th, 6th, and 8th houses. Those houses as considered the worst placements whereby destitution and suffering take place. Check out Hellenistic Astrology Part 1 and Part 2 of this Hellenistic Astrology series.

 
  I choose a classic chart that will illustrate this is not the case. 90% of this chart would represent horrors.

Hellenistic Astrology only uses the 5 planets and the 2 luminaries (Sun and Moon.) It excludes the outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.)
 
 In the last 2 weeks, I shared 2 forecasting tools that serve as great add-ons to Modern Astrology.
  
 Modern Astrology doesn’t treat the 12th, 6th, and 8th houses as awful placements. Those houses embody talent, strength, depth, mystery, and intuition.
  
 Otherwise, the native of this chart, Mariah Carey, would not have achieved worldwide success.

Western Astrology Chart Post Hellenistic Astrology

When viewing Mariah’s chart in the modern approach, we see many amazing aspects demonstrating massive career opportunities. 9 planets aspect her Midheaven. Some are minor aspects and out-of-sign aspects, however, they are potent. This would be overlooked using the Hellenistic approach.
 
 The Hellenistic approach can serve well as creating a 2nd chart to get secondary information as that chart will shift planets into houses that are not in the modern chart.
 
 If I were limited to only the Hellenistic approach, I would never estimate the first chart belonged to a major entertainer; whereas, the modern chart (#2) shows all of it.
 
 Science, entertainment, technology, medicine, psychology, etc. have come a long way since 2 BCE.  Astrology has also come a long way.
  
 Some wonderful Hellenistic theories can be used for today’s modern approach. Yet, one needs to tread with caution. There is no such thing as a “bad” chart. Certainly, some charts have challenges; however, they serve as an opportunity to fuel ambition and hard work.
 
 Whenever I see a difficult aspect in a chart, I question what makes it complicated and what can be done to improve. This is where Modern astrology differs and offers solutions for improvements.
 
 I have seen charts that have a lot of ease. However, many of the natives lack ambition towards hard work because they rarely had a struggle. Yet, when tough times are encountered, there may be little strength or motive to work hard.
  
 Though I won’t deny that Carey’s chart has obstacles when it comes to love life, they can be worked on.  However, career-wise, I was astounded by many of her planetary placements.
 
 2022 has major changes for Mariah with transiting Uranus entering her first house. We can expect to see surprising professional, personal, and physical changes for Mariah from March through November.
 

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Hellenistic Astrology Pt 2:  Zodiacal Releasing  

Another Hellenistic forecasting tool is Zodiacal Releasing. To use this, the idea of “Lots” is used. Usually, they are comprehended as “Arabic Parts.” The Part of Fortune is the most prevalent one. However, the Parts differ from the Lots.

Hellenistic Astrology Part 1 and Part 3 is also part of this series.

 A Lot is a mathematical point in the chart that holds a distinctive set of meanings or topics. For instance, the Lot of Fortune was usually associated with the body of the native. The Lot of Spirit was attributed to the mind. Other Lots signify topics such as Marriage, Eros, Success, Parents, Children, Strife, Nemesis, Courage, etc. 

Lots are calculated by calculating the space between two planets in the chart and then taking that calculation further. For this article, I will keep that out as it can get technical for most. 

The two frequently used Lots in the Hellenistic Astrology were the Lot of Fortune and the Lot of Spirit.  Once the Lots have been calculated, we can do more interpretation. 

Zodiacal Releasing

In Zodiacal Releasing, each zodiac sign has a specific amount of time-based on the planetary period of the sign’s ruling planet. Libra is ruled by Venus, and the planetary period of Venus is 8 years. The number of years associated with the sign Libra or Taurus is 8. 
 

To compute the person’s Zodiacal Releasing years, select where the Lot of Fortune and the Lot of Spirit are located in the chart. These two Lots are the starting points. 
 

The Lot that you begin from supplies the timing periods is created. If you want to examine the person’s career and life direction, calculate the Lot of Spirit and utilize the sign it is located in as the beginning point. Once the person has finished the number of years associated with that Zodiac sign, it proceeds to the next sign in zodiacal order.

Releasing the Lot of Spirit from the Lot of Fortune gives information about the career. This may seem confusing. In general, the Lot of Fortune is a release point for all the lots. When the Lots move to a division of 4, an extremely active high point is achieved. For example, examining career, we use the Lot of Spirit. Signs that are 1, 4, 7, 10 signs away from the Part of Fortune will show a high point in the career.   

Zodiacal Releasing Justin Bieber

Justin Beiber was born with the Part of Spirit in Cancer in the 9th house which was already 4 signs away from Fortune. This means he was born with a peak period since birth at level 1. 

When level 2 sub-periods reached another 1, 4, 7, 10, from Fortune, that was when reached global success. Interpretations are given for each moment a planet was activated describes the periods to detail adding more nuances.  Those will be skipped for the purpose of this article. 
 

Use chart 1, to get the numerical value. Now go to chart 2.  Beiber’s the Part of Spirit was at birth in Cancer. So in level 2 (subperiod/months), POS  stays in Cancer it stayed for 25 months, Leo 19 months, Virgo 20 months, Libra 8 months, Scorpio 20 months, Sagittarius 12, Capricorn 27 months, Aquarius 30 months, Pisces 12 months. When you add all these months together, they total 14.4 years. Add this number to his birthday, 3/1/1994, totals when he had his successful breakout period in 2008.  

On a technical note, one must use the whole sign chart system for this to work.  It is not visible in the modernized chart systems.  

These Lots and Zodiacal Releases enrich modern techniques for calculating marriage, career, children, and more.

Many other techniques do the same.  I present this to you to demonstrate how it was done in ancient Astrology periods from 2 BCE that still works today.

Confirmation adds more clarity and certainty in forecasts.  

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Hellenistic Astrology:  Annual Profections

Annual Profections


One of my favorite Hellenistic practices is Annual Profections. Yes, that is the correct word, it is not perfection. Rather it is PRO (ahead), FECT (make or do), and ION (the act of).

This was a technique developed in the Hellenistic Tradition of Astrology where each year of the person’s life, the Ascendant, or the 1st house, represents the native. It advances annually on the birthday whereby it moves to the next sign and place.

Annual Profections Basics Needed:

 1) House Triggered: The house issues will be propelled to the forefront of the person’s life for that year.
 

 2)  Sign Triggered: The sign won’t have intrinsic weight, but planets transiting through that sign are significant. 
 

 3) Planets Triggered in House: What the planet represents in the chart willrepresent the focus for the year.
 

 4)  Ruler of the Triggered Sign: This will be the planet theme most symbolic for the whole year. The location of that ruler natally, the ruler, and aspects are important. 

 
If you look at the wheel, the houses in modern are used. Themes around one’s career would be activated at age 9, 21, 33, 45, 57, and 69 as the 10th house is activated. Love life is triggered at ages 6, 18, 30, 42, 54, 66 as the 7th house is activated. Each house repeats itself in 12-year increments.   Surely, there are differences for a 6 year old having a first crush versus an 18 year old having the most serious experience. 


When we layer the above periods with the 4 guideposts, insights as to the specific themes for that period are available. It is important to factor in the condition of the chart at birth. Also, the house system in place for this technique is quite different. The whole sign system was used instead of the modern chart. This may shift signs and planets in the chart.  


For example, I have a client that her 2nd house (money, possessions, and finances) triggered at ages 25, 37, and 49. Indeed, financial matters were the main themes for those years. However, that did not mean that those years’ finances were great. At age 25 her earning capacity increased. At age 37 multiplied with extreme power struggles as she experienced a divorce. At age 49, she encountered severe financial losses and setbacks. Yet, the theme for all those years revolved around finances. So, the Hellenistic tradition worked fine. However, modern techniques define specifically if those years will have gains or losses. 

 
Though I do believe Annual  Profections should not be used as a stand-alone technique, it will confirm themes, especially when eye-balling a chart on the spot.


Next, I’ll share a Zodiacal Releasing based on the Hellenistic Astrology.

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Virgo Sun Taurus Rising

Virgo Sun with Taurus Rising:  Your enthusiasm will allow you to find fulfillment. Suitable for public positions and for assuming responsibilities that most would find tedious or monotonous makes you shine especially if you put a creative spin to it. You have a long lasting capacity for business and commerce.

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Virgo Sun Gemini Rising

Virgo Sun with Gemini Rising:  You have plenty of intellectual skills which give you strong socializing and schmoozing skills.  If you can direct your communication skills too, it can manifest into writing talents because of your imagination and eloquence.  Your emotions may require work as your mind is constantly conjuring ideas.

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Virgo Sun Cancer Rising

Virgo Sun with Cancer Rising:  Sometimes, logic does not accompany your heart. You may think too much and miss opportunities. Your imagination embellishes the information you capture with your antennas. You want to know everything and be in touch with everyone.  Sexuality will be a source of renewal.

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Virgo  Sun Leo   Rising Combo

Virgo Sun with Leo Rising:  This creative combination can be super resourceful for wealth building.  The detail oriented Virgo mixed with the creative spark of Leo will come up with strategies that most can’t conjure or carry through.  You spot details that others overlook.

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